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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 5 Sep 1998.
Re: ASCII, do I stand a chance?

Re: ASCII, do I stand a chance?

Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Message-id: <904...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>
>>You want to share?  OK, fair enough...agreed!
>>I actually thought that the hat and bodywork was possibly good enough
>>to claim the entire picture despite the pirated cheesy grin which did
>>indeed come from your Cheshire Cat...

>It's my opinion, and I believe the opinion of
>others in this group, that if you use the ASCII
>art created by others, you should give them
>credit.   If you alter the pic in a minor way,
>(change a handful of characters), the signature
>should not be changed...  if you change the
>picture (add to), then add your initials to the
>original signature for shared credit.
>If you completely change a picture so that it
>isn't even recognizable as the original (so as
>to even 'fool' the original artist), then I think
>it's permissible to use your own signature.
>I'm talking 'major' changes here.

>In your example, the face is clearly the same as
>my Cheshire cat..  I don't mind you using it,
>but don't claim it as your own.  I know in your
>original postings, you've written "after jgs"--
>that's fine...

>I'm not trying to be petty.  I just believe that we
>should have a set of guidelines that are adhered
>to.

Agreed, but I'm considering stopping diddling altogether and posting 
only my own original material ( if that is truly possible ).  
Pictures in my collection that I have already diddled I will 
probably retain and sometimes repost.

I get throroughly tired of trying always to remember where I have 
got the elements included in my pictures and having to worry about 
how to append the credits to everything I post especially when a
number of items from different people are included in a composite
diddle.  

I have also long been weary of adding credits to pictures that even
the authors themselves don't bother to sign.  

Actually I did not vote or even comment very much on the "art-
crediting guidelines" when they were being proposed, discussed,
and drafted because I felt that although they might be emininently
desirable they were far too tricky to apply in daily practice to make
them really effective.  

It still comes down to posters making known their displeasure if 
someone is stepping outside the guidelines.

Now...few people seem to bother snaffling my wonderful pictures...
I wonder why?   *8-)

Bye,

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From: Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz>
Subject: Re: ASCII, do I stand a chance?
Date: 1998/09/05
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