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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 13 Sep 2001.
Re: Patches...

Re: Patches...

>Without commenting on the rest of your post, this is incorrect.  Making
>content, such as ASCII art, available over the WWW does emphatically not
>place it into the public domain.

This is true, and I do realize the copyright laws of the internet are
still being written, however, someone who would be unscrupulous in
nature would still take advantage of what he can take off the web...
If the source code was no so easily available, it might have been
harder for people to take off the web, if you couldn't right click and
save, it would still be hard, in the end, the file still downloads to
your pc and even the most determined person could go looking for
something they want, and alter, change, steal or do whatever they like
without obtaining permission first to do so.

You can put a @copyright 2002 all you want on a site, but unless you
actually copyright, it means very little in a court of law.

Most people on the web, are simply wanting a link back to a site, or
credit for there art, and that is understandable and should be given.
When I first was learning html, I had little knowledge of how to do
things, and now I try to be more careful, but even I admit that it
gets difficult to trace exactly where you might have gotten something.
Now, I tend to stick to graphics I have had made for my site, or have
captured from IRC... trying to use art with the initials kept in it so
credit can be given.

>If you do not care, you should consider stating so on the website.  Then
>mirroring it would be completely legal.

My site changes to much to be mirrored, someone could mirror it all
they like, but in the end, they'd not have a perfect mirror since I
change things on a fairly regular basis... Her cd image shows a very
different site.. I wouldn't care what she does with it now.

>especially not in minor cases like this.  It still does exist, and
>should be respected.  And when actual, printed books enter the picture,
>the probability of someone caring enough to sue someone else does go up,
>as there is actual money involved and as publishers are notoriously
>paranoid about copyright.
>
I agree.

>such necessity exists, so there is no excuse, legal or moral, for not
>respecting Veronica's wishes.

well I don't see where Brenda didn't do that, she made the attempts
last year to get people to come forward about art she wished to use,
but few if anyone came forward.  Second, Brenda is also just learning
html, her site was mostly built by her friend and Brenda I believe had
to figure out how to remove that stuff, she has done so, and it was
done within a few days, when she realized she needed to remove the
entire image off the site.

>As far as any playing card can be original, Veronica's certainly is.  It
>is based on the same basic design as any traditional King of Hearts, but
>a) this design is ancient, and b) even if it were recent enough to fall

still she used a design based on something someone else did.

patches

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