Re: ASCII swastika, ascii swastikas
From Daniel Ruth-Exposed <dan...@gmail.com>
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· 8 Dec 2011 15:18 · View full thread
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The National Socialist German Workers Party was a socialist party. You admitted that the German Nationalsozialismus was somewhat interconnected to socialist ideas first. Socialism is not an international idea. Nationalsozalismus, similar to all socialism implies hate on everybody else and a twisted ideology of racism. The henchmen and hooligans of the SA were more and more replaced by the killers and murderers of the SS. By doing so the Nationalsozialismus was following ideas of socialism. I don't understand why you're so impolite, Volker Birk. I'm just trying to go into what you're writing. I have the feeling, that you're not too deep into German history, Volker, so this leads you to some misunderstandings. I think I can help you to find a better view. Wikipedia is not a good entry point to find information. The articles you were recommending are not dependable and did not support what you were trying to say, and they also misled you so that you were completely ignorant of the points made here. Really, Volerk, I have the feeling, that you have a deep misunderstanding of German history. That's the reason why I was recommending to read the corresponding articles. if you feel underestimated, I can recommend professional historical literature, too, Volker. Voler, Your mistakes are very common, especially for a person who learns from wakipedia. You continue your crude evasions with pointless remarks about the German long S that isn't related to the points made here. You know that the SS logo is two runes. You know that it is a logo, a symbol. You know that it shows that people in Germany were using runes in a Germany and it was not restricted to print the logo of the SS when it was mentioned. You are being absurd. The Sturmabteilung was was using stylized lettering similar to that in the SS, the VW, the NSV et cetera, et cetera. You are absurd. If you want to keep your eyes closed then that is your problem. The thing in its logo is a flash, because of the name – Sturmabteilung literally translates to "department of (thunder)storm" as well as "department of attack" like a flash of lightning, just as the S-style rune was used and manipulated. With NSV, do you mean the Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt? The symbols in this logo are stylized letters meshed together in the same rune-style, just as the hakenkreuz was used, the VW, the viking jugend, the SA, etc etc. You are so absurd. you will find historical or recent German texts with runes in them because you have admitted that the SS symbol used runes and there are plenty of historical or recent German texts with the SS symbol discussed in them. You are absurd to claim that they never thought of the SS symbol again. That was it. No one ever even thought that the hakenkreuz kinda sorta looked a teensy bit like the SS symbol or a rune style crossed. That never crossed anyone's mind. Oh, so you admit "Maybe" but then show your jealousy and envy by asking "and why should anyone do so?" You are the one who did not think so until you learned it here. The two symbols do not have different roots, and they are interrelated in the very way that is being mentioned here and that you admit "both were used by Nazis" and altered by them for the purposes stated herein: alphabetic symbolism. Guess what? it never crossed YOUR mind. But now it has. sorry to disabuse you. It definitely crossed other minds. You are absurd. Stop being idiotic. It was here publicly that I demolished your illusions about Germans and your history. You seem having problems to deal with the facts I'm offering to you. Thank you for admitting that the red references socialism. As you know the Nationalsozialisten were related to some socialist ideas, while Nationalsozialismus is not a completely other ideology. You have not explained major differences. I hope that I have helped you to see that Nationalsozialismus is nearly the same socialism like Marx described it. It is clear that your political bias dogma make you incapable of admitting the truth here about the hakenkreuz representing crossed S- shapes for their socialism. Thanks for admitting that the hakenkreuz was the symbol for Hitler's socialism. It is adsurd for you to say "There is no such thing like "Hitler's socialism"" when you have already admitted that the hakenkreuz was the symbol for the national socialist german workers party, hitler's socialism. You are an absurd person and your dogma/ bias cannot let you admit even the obvious points anymore. Thanks for admitting he turned it 45 degrees. Thanks for admitting he oriented it in the S-direction. Thanks for admitting that he was an artist. As you know there are reasons why symbol was manipulated and displayed in a particular way. You are just angry you did not see it or understand it. You are being absurd when you try to evade by saying "BTW: there are historical swasticas in the S direction as well as the Z direction, so Hitler had nothing to change with it." you know the historical examples are not the point, and you have already admitted that Hitler deliberately displayed the symbol in a particular way. Now you have learned why. Stop evading. Now, again you claim that he never made any mental comparison between the SS symbol and his tweaking of the hakenkreuz? That thought never entered his mind, according to you. Guess what? YOU are the only one who never made any mental comparison. Stop evading something new you have learned. Volker, your comments are getting boring. http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg You are nonsensical. sorry. All of these symbols in this picture were used by the NSDAP or under it. It is not a misunderstanding to set a rune into a text with latin letters because it looks like an S, you ass, and people use similar stylization for the S letter today too, just as you conceded was done with the SS. You are an idiot.
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