Re: Character sets (was: So, You Want To Make Text Art?)

In article <84sq32$bq$1...@scesie13.sie.siemens.at>,
  "tobias koehler" <tob...@sgpvt.at> wrote:
> Those keyboards are not non-standard. All national versions of
> keyboards follow their own little standards. Of course they
> would be unnecessary if someone finally introduced a keyboard
> with a couple dozen additional keys that would be suitable for
> all languages using the latin alphabet. But until that .... we
> have to live with dozens of different keyboard standards.

Sorry, Tobias, but the standard is the Ascii keyboard.
I think using Latin is a great idea, though. Get it accepted,
and I'll be happy to comply.




> And you believe everything that comes on TV?
> I wouldn't do that if I were you ....


Unfortunately, I believe everything I see or hear
on television. Did you know that only last week,
bigfoot aliens adbucted and impregnated a high
school cheerleader squad, just outside of Beaver's
Bend, Oregon?



> I don't have the numbers, but my guess is that the percentage of
> internet users in non-English-speaking countries is increasing.
> "Almost all" users in German-speaking countries use QWERTZUIOP�
> keyboards and can't understand that some newsreaders might have
> problems with characters of the upper ISO 8859-1 set ....

Yes, international users are certainly on the increase. The Ascii
standard is still the standard, though. When this is changed, I
won't have any problems with conforming.



> The strict ASCII art standard of using only characters 32 to 126
> might be extended to include all of the ISO 8859-1 character set
> (which is "standard" in the WWW, Usenet, Mail etc. and probably
> understood by more newsreaders than ANSI control codes - I know
> it's far from ideal as it originates in the cold war, so it
> covers only western Europe) - but those pictures should be
> clearly marked. As the upper charset mostly consists of accented
> letters anyway, I'm not completely convinced of the necessity of
> such an extension ;)

Well, we wouldn't be making Ascii, then. We'd be making extended-
character-Ascii. I'd go for it, when everyone else does. But, as
you point out, there is no necessity for it, at all.

Or maybe we could all switch to Unicode? That's something folks
would LIKE to be ideal. As soon as it gets adopted as the standard,
maybe we could all do that...




> What I don't understand is all the flaming between JRO and
> Veronica Karlsson. Please, please, be so nice and take this to
> private e-mail.
>
> tobias k�hler
>
>

It's not really about Ascii charts, or tutorials, or anything
like that, Tobias. It's about being rude to new people on this
newsgroup; it's about being rude to old people on this newsgroup.
Miss Karlson has long maintained she enjoys flaming both. She
has no interest in promoting this newsgroup, or encouraging
new people in joining this hobby. For years, she has started
these little flame-wars, for her own entertainment.

For years, I have kept this kind of thing IN email. She's
cried and pulled her hair, each time, frothing at the mouth
for an opportunity to flame me in "public". She's tried to
disgrace nearly everyone else on this newsgroup, at one time
or another. Since I do cartoons, she's mostly avoided me, or
I've ignored her.

I would be happy to keep this in email. I don't make "korrections"
or write flames to people's threads. Veronikuh doesn't read her
email, though... She wants you to catch her on "chat", instead.
She can't deal with an email argument - there's no percentage in
it, for her.

Here, though, she has the open opportunity to try to disgrace
someone, in "public". She cries for permission to post private
email; she brings up past arguments, no matter how obscure (Lime
Green browser backgrounds, for instance) her "point was". She's
practiced trolling on flame groups, ect., for years - read
up on trolling faqs, ect., ect.. Her purpose is clear.

Thanks for your input. I appologize for stooping to answer this
troll, but she's a weak one, who has now show her true colors to
everyone here. I think that she will soon learn to behave, or
she won't be around much longer. Then I can just get back to the
buisness of making cartoons.

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Jonathon R. Oglesbee
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      mail.fullnet.net


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